The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. Whisky is Scotch, followed by Canada. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. The Protestant Reformation began in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517 . (typically with the dots de-emphasised using colour and font size), is a brand of Irish whiskey produced by William Grant & Sons. I wanted to explore one of t, @teremana has been my new favorite tequila since t, Happy Repeal Day! Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle Funny. Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. Trust me on this. Not what religion you think a whiskey holds. We intend to vigorously defend our position. Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. As most Irish distillers use their barrels more than once, the color and bourbon flavor is thinned a bit once blended. I am Northern Irish and really only see this being an Irish American issue. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. As an irish american raised in an irish roman catholic family I can say this: Now I have a different taste preference and enjoy Bushmills in the warmer months and back to Jameson when it gets a chill in the air. Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. I think Paddys may be even rarer in the US than Powers. Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about jeff. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. Funny how these things work out, innit? Get your facts right ! Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. About one-in-five (18%) chose "the Great Crusade," while 6% said "the Great Schism" and 5% said "the French Revolution The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. As of late, its been my favorite it has rich barley notes that leave my palate craving more. Bushmills released a statement saying:Its just one of the outrageous statements put about in an attempt to blacken our name. I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. Along with a fellow sipper we have over most of the Irish brands listed here in this thread as part of a 30+ years Christmas gift exchange and tasting session. Very easy arrangement. Catholic fiction teaches us then how to better read the Bible, which demands the both/and reading of the letter and spirit. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Right now Redbreast, Bushmills 10yr Single malt ( drinking neat as I type), Jameson and Michael Collins Blend. Sweeter, rich with barley, and perfect with one ice cube. Tullamore Dew is aged in ex-bourbon and ex-sherry cask type, whereas Jameson is aged in oak barrels. I am going to be the bartender at my college prom, and need a drink that will be popular with the kids. I can solve this argument. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant. When Alfred Barnard, the British historian visited John's Lane in the late 1880s, he noted the elegance and cleanliness of the buildings, and the modernity of the distillery, describing it as "about as complete a work as it is possible to find anywhere". I like Jamesons.andI like BushmillsandI like Tullamore Dew.and I dont care if theyre made by Indonesian monks that hate my mothertheyre just tasty. Not enough time to read through comments. Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. I come from an island which has been called the most Irish place outside of Ireland and weve had our papist-loyalist troubles in the past, where they will remain. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. In 1966, with the Irish whiskey industry still struggling following Prohibition in the United States, the Anglo-Irish Trade War and the rise of competition from Scotch whiskey, John Power & Son joined forces with the only other remaining distillers in the Irish Republic, the Cork Distilleries Company and their Dublin rivals John Jameson & Son, to form Irish Distillers. 2. Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. The Thirty Years' War was a series of wars in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. The situation is ridiculous. To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. [6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. Nose Cured beef appeared in many cultures and has no clear beginning. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. Protestant - to 'protest'. There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. Turned out not to be such a controversy. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. For one, Jameson and Bushmills trade casks and some Jamesons bottles are bottled in the Bushmills distillery as well as knowing many a catholic who have worked there over the years. My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. I came to mention Powers- it seems my work is done. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. Utter nonsense. Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. [15], More recently, in 2015, Powers Signature Release won a gold medal in the category Irish Single Pot Still Whiskey at the Irish Whiskey Awards. The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. I do live in a Hicktown. In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. Catholic and Slovak-American, my personal preference is Jamesons. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. If you had and asked for Bushmills, you would have received a long stare and possibly been asked to leave. The truth is that great whiskey is produced in both the north and south of Ireland. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. Wonderful thread. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. Hes either the only Irishman who believes this or some in this thread are misinformed. I am pretty sure that if you visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin your guide would not have mentioned the fact about the companys discrimination against Catholics, let alone advise on boycotting it. So by your logic it is fair to say that Every time you raise a glass of American Bourbon you are in essence raising a glass to an Native American losing his land (and in MOST cases his life) to British/American rule! Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. Nuts. Irish for the whiskey . Your email address will not be published. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). Roman Catholic influence on the whiskey world doesn't end with Henry VIII, however. I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. Will never forgive parents. Cheers! Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. The make up of the folks who work at Bushmills reflects the religous makeup of Northern Ireland roughly 40% Roman Catholic. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. Ive worked my way through nearly all the brands mentioned here and yet consistently return to my beloved Jameson 12 neat. @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. Right. Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. Just as in an area which is largely Catholic you would expect most employees to be Catholic. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! I believe that Germany is the largest market for Tullamore Dew, followed by many of the Eastern European countries. Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! All in all meaning, were I to have gone to Ireland to visit, my relatives would probably have been more confused than was I. I would wager that half the comments are from people that have never been to Irelandif I drink vodka does this make me a communist -no! ! Idiot!! Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? Irish whiskeys obtain much of their flavor and color from the coating left inside the barrel from the bourbon aging process. [1], Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. And, many thanks to (nearly) all of those who offered comments. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Understanding the church. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. If I had a choice between Macallan 18 and Redbreast, think Id stay Irish. Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. [8] After expansion, output at the distillery rose to 700,000 gallons per annum, and by the 1880s, had reached about 900,000 gallons per annum, at which point the distillery covered over six acres of central Dublin, and had a staff of about 300 people.[3][1]. [16], Last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21, "Account of Number of Gallons of Wash distilled in Scotland and Ireland, 1826-27", "Deaths Registered in the District of Killiney", "Main Driver of Recovery of Distillery Industry - Obituary: Frank O'Reilly 1922-2013", "Whiskey Bible Awards for Powers Jameson", Whiskey Distilling: a Part of Dublin's Industrial Heritage (1977), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Powers_(whiskey)&oldid=1139599779, Powers 12 year old reserve, Powers Three Swallow, Powers Signature Release, Powers John's Lane Release, Powers Irish Rye, Powers 12-year-old Special Reserve, 40% ABV, a blend of 1221-year-old whiskeys with a high pot still content, matured in ex-Bourbon and sherry casks, Powers Three Swallow Release, 43.2%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in, Powers Signature Release, 46%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Oloroso Sherry casks, Powers John's Lane Release, 46%, single pot still, 12-year-old, matured mainly in ex-bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Sherry casks, Powers Irish Rye, 43.2%, triple distilled in a column still, non age statement, matured in a selection of American oak virgin casks and ex-bourbon casks, with the rye sourced from Co. Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. Believe in the Trinity of God. In 1989, Irish Distillers itself became a subsidiary of Pernod-Ricard following a friendly takeover. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. And I was not drunk !!! I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? In 1886, John Power & Son began bottling their own whiskey, rather than following the practice customary at the time, of selling whiskey directly to merchants and bonders who would bottle it themselves. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. Also absolutely no one gave a rats ass what my religion is & Dublin is currently commemorating the Easter Rising centennial! Please remember quite a few of you presidents from Grant to Clinton descended from this part of the world. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? I am not surprised that this thread is 6 years old and still going strong. For the record, despite the Scottish reformation, that doesnt mean Jamieson was a Proddy. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. One good friend turned to me and chuckled. I come from the border and powers was the biggest seller by ten to one over any other whiskey,jemmy was next ,bush mills was not even on the optics and it was all about their hiring practices of workers and not the religion of their owners, @jen Peter Knox hit the nail on the head in #103 & Hey Bartender is right, giving a crap about what religion founded a whiskeys distillery is about as authentically Irish as corned beefFYI: not a single Irish person I spoke to knew had ever heard of corned beef, it wasnt in the grocery stores & certainly not on any menus. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. She didnt give a toss about anyones religion, let alone the whiskeys. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. Yet a great friend of Catholic Ireland. In 1827, production was reported at 160,270 gallons,[5] and by 1833 had grown to 300,000 gallons per annum. Youd be hard to convince me it is 40 proof, much less 80. Cant believe this discussion thread is still going on since 2009! The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. Last I was in Ireland, about three weeks ago, I bought two bottles at a shop for 22 each. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. A great whiskey. There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Cant wait to find out. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. Irish whiskey comes in two forms, Catholic and Protestant. I said, so youre Protestant? Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? But the Bushmills Distillery Reserve, a bottle of which my very, very good sister recently brought back as a gift from Belfast, is holy smoking delicious good. Oh and Bushmills was NOT licensed to distill in 1608Thats marketing Bullshit. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. All appointments are made solely on the basis of merit.. In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. None of that means shit. Jamesons too is lovely. . It was also the period during which the Roman Catholic Church, as an entity distinct from other . I am not trying to be offensive here, but really, it is just so dumb. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. Ill take one next time Im out. The Emperor's war against the Lutheran princes put the first Protestant reformers in a difficult bind. I sincerely doubt that there are too many Irish Catholics who care about the religion attached to what they drink. I could be fairly sure the master distiller was hired because he was good at distilling whiskey and not because they needed to hire a Catholic. It was a big hit with my fellow pilgrims. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. The new distillery opened in 1975, and a year later, production ceased at John's Lane Distillery and began anew in Cork,[1] with Powers Gold Label and many other Irish whiskeys reformulated from single pot stills whiskeys to blends. Seriously (though I actually was), I very much appreciated the original article, as I had had often wondered about that Jamesons = Catholic; Bushmills = Protestant thing. So any Americans who believe this, should change to Murphys at once. Love a pleanty Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. [2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. 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